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Why the practice of racism itself produces and prolongs the illusion of race.

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People have the idea that racism arises out of people perceiving racial difference. Our point is the cause is the other way around. You start with racism, and that creates race.

History professor Barbara and independent scholar Karen Fields discuss racism’s pervasive legacy in personal and political life.

Barbara and Karen wrote the book Racecraft: The Soul of Inequality in American Life.

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Barbara Fields

Barbara Fields is Professor of History at Columbia University.

 

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Karen Fields

Karen Fields is an author and independent scholar.

 

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