[The child welfare system] is such a powerful system in terms of the ideology it promotes, and it does it in such an insidious way by convincing so many people that impoverished, Black and Native children are being cared for by the system and diverts people's attention from the real reasons why Black and Native indigenous children have the highest rates of poverty. You know, it's not because they have bad, unloving parents and need to be rescued by white saviors. It's because of the unequal structures in our society. I think we do have to look at all these different layers of the way in which this system operates to really understand what its function is, and why so many people don't understand its function, and are fooled by the myth of benevolence and child protection, and why it's so important to abolish it.